tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-420304547242244016.post7021045272951903340..comments2023-06-13T11:07:53.319+01:00Comments on There are only two kinds of people: Top 100 Albums - #49: The Final Cut (1983)Daniel Mumbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08420635084572153150noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-420304547242244016.post-50418553166913359642008-01-08T11:33:00.000+00:002008-01-08T11:33:00.000+00:00I can't quite understand the basis of this album. ...I can't quite understand the basis of this album. Does it criticise the fighting of world war two? Or is it simply saying that the aims of world war two were to "build a better, more humane society based on progressive, humanist values" (wiki) and bring an end to British wars?<BR/><BR/>I understand Waters lost his own father in the war, but I don't think he understands the basis or the motives behind the soldiers that fought for Britian in the war. Many, such as my own grandfather, were conscripted and the war didn't symbolise anything clear. <BR/><BR/>The British public was behind the war for a number of reasons. It was partly real-politik, with the assistance of Poland after invasion. People could see that Hitler had broken his promises and 'peace in our time' as Chamberlain put it was unrealistic. However, some still clamored for peace as they expected The Great War to be 'the war that ends all wars'.<BR/><BR/>After France had been overrun and the Battle of the Atlantic and Britain had started the war became one of self-preservation. By now the British public was far more united in the need to defeat Nazi Germany for self preservation.<BR/><BR/>Over the course of the war the Nazis' war atrocities became clearer and were given as a reason for fighting.<BR/><BR/>Throughout the war, the cause of democracy was also used as a reason for fighting amongst all Allied soldiers excluding the Soviets.<BR/><BR/>However, it was only by 1942 that the Beverage Report was established as a cause worth fighting for by the end of the war. This aimed to tackle the five giants of Want, Disease, Ignorance, Squalor and Idleness and is probably the route of Waters' conclusion that the war was fought for a 'progressive' state. As you can see, it was indeed in the picture but was only part of it.<BR/><BR/>Have I understood the basis of the album correctly? And would you agree Waters' is a bit flimsy on the reasons for fighting WW2.<BR/><BR/>(On a side note, its particularly hard to tackle all 5 of the giants, especially the last one 'idleness'. It can be argued that Thatcher simply placed a higher priority on different elements of the giants.)Tom Waleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01164802928227839312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-420304547242244016.post-56341898752752507532008-01-06T12:11:00.000+00:002008-01-06T12:11:00.000+00:00Gostei muito desse post e seu blog é muito interes...Gostei muito desse post e seu blog é muito interessante, vou passar por aqui sempre =) Depois dá uma passada lá no meu site, que é sobre o <A HREF="http://www.provedorcrescenet.com" REL="nofollow">CresceNet</A>, espero que goste. O endereço dele é http://www.provedorcrescenet.com . Um abraço.<A HREF="5830555860" REL="nofollow"></A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com